Коли розпочнеться обвал нереальних цін на житло у Києві?

Де всі?

Я так поняв після інсайда від Макса, всі почали квитки бронювати на вечір? )))

всі вже в черзі у ВП,
щогодини перекличка і звірка з номерками написаними на руці зі списком смотрящого за чергою

ось такий? https://72.ru/text/gorod/2020/06/15/69308182/

Шо там - выездные визы возвращаются?

ковід піспорт..

Шо там - выездные визы возвращаются?

ковід піспорт..

і де фантасти? де пророки?

чому не бачу ШІ в уряді?
а штрик-коди на руці кожного?
чому не сказали, що ковід-паспорт в 2021 і біткойн ПА50Ку?

з.і.
про ціну м2 КРЖН навіть не запитую. ніхто не знає майбутнього, навіть Успіх-нелох.

Не все так сладко с переуступками, я свою ждал пару месяцев. Продавать сейчас люди не хотят, так как цены входа приближаются к готовому новострою. Что делать с деньгами люди тоже не знают, так как инфляция бешеная. С другой стороны цена на ремонты высокая, а рентабельность аренды падает. Ситуация, в которой даже местные эксперты не спешат что-то советовать.

снижение рентабельности аренды - неизбежный процесс и это еще этот бизнес не обложили как следует налогами и не загнали в нормальное правовое русло
но и это рано или поздно произойдет - вот тогда и вернемся к вопросу о "крохоборах" и о том как "сдал и забыл и мне пофиг на +/- 20% по аренде"

В таком случае арендный бизнес ждёт монополизация, те, у кого деньги на 1 квартиру есть, Вряд-ли захотят её сдавать за менее 5% рентабельности, если это ниже инфляции, даже в валюте.

Рентабельность аренды зависит от стоимости денег в конкретной стране. Все-таки недвижимость это местный ресурс. Если в стране есть длинные дешевые деньги, то они ищут где бы им пристроиться даже с минимальной доходностью. Рентабельность аренды в 2008 и в 2015 отличалась в два раза.

Второе это не нужно смешивать рентабельность и инфляцию. Недвига не имеет инфляции по своей сути - худо-бедно в долгосроке цена квартиры растет на уровень инфляции что в гривнах, что в долларах, что в евро. У недвиги есть амортизация. У недвиги под аренду отдельно амортизация бетона и техники/ремонта. Некоторая себестоимость аренды. У бабушатника в Киеве одна, а в квартире с современным ремонтом в Кропивницком совсем другая.
При рентабельности в 5% лендлорду в реальности в карман идет 2-3%. Если люди на это соглашаются, значит нигде с большей доходностью свои деньги они не могут пристроить - значит в стране хватает дешевых кредитных ресурсов.

City of London plans 1,500 homes for post-pandemic recovery
https://www.ft.com/content/c59d4058-3ec ... 92e71a91ff

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The City of London is planning to convert offices left vacant after the pandemic into hundreds of homes as part of a recovery strategy to be launched by the UK capital’s financial district.

The City of London Corporation will on Tuesday publish proposals to boost its cultural and creative industries, as well as bringing in “high-potential tech-led businesses” not traditionally attracted to its medieval streets. 

Low-cost, long-term leases in empty buildings could be offered to creative sector tenants, with other plans to explore new ways to use vacant space left behind from companies relocating staff out of London post-pandemic and bring new life to the area.

As part of the five-year strategy, the Corporation, which governs the UK’s traditional financial centre, said that it would consider traffic-free weekends in summer, as well as all-night “cultural celebrations” to encourage activity outside office hours. 

It added that the City “must adapt to post-pandemic economic and social trends” and set a target of adding at least 1,500 residential units by 2030 through a mixture of developing new schemes and converting old buildings.

The Square Mile contains about 7,850 residences, housing a community far smaller than the 19th-century population of 125,000 sustained before mass transportation enabled workers to commute from further afield.

It will also encourage landlords to offer more flexible and adaptable offices suited to the post-pandemic workforce.

Catherine McGuinness, the Corporation’s policy chair, said businesses had assured the authority of their commitment to retaining a London hub.

“But how they operate will inevitably change to reflect post-pandemic trends, such as hybrid and flexible working,” McGuinness added. “The Square Mile must evolve in order to provide an ecosystem that remains attractive to workers, visitors, learners and residents.”

Other proposals focus on digital infrastructure, including plans to complete a shared 5G network across the Square Mile by the end of 2022. The Corporation will this week announce a pilot with Cornerstone, the joint venture between Vodafone and Telefónica, to show that shared infrastructure can support the requirements of the four mobile operators using taller masts and “small cell” technology to increase network capacity.

The Corporation will work with public, private and academic partners to collect data for projects to improve the infrastructure and operation of the Square Mile by sharing and analysing working patterns, travel behaviours and the use of streets and public spaces. 

It has started pedestrianising several City streets, but it also wants to add and improve public spaces to enhance opportunities for communities to flourish as well as encouraging more walking and cycling. It is consulting on part pedestrianising the junction around Bank Underground station, and will participate in London’s trial of e-scooters.

The City of London’s economy has been particularly hard hit during the pandemic, with people forced to work from home in the lockdown. Many employers have revealed plans for staff to work at least part of the time at home on a permanent basis.

The Corporation created a recovery task force last year to help the Square Mile emerge from the pandemic stronger, with a greater focus on attracting businesses outside traditional financial services in future growth industries.

UK government ministers have also been keen to enhance the City’s competitiveness after Brexit, which has caused many traditional financial occupiers to move staff to rival European financial centres.

Tony Travers, a director of LSE London, said the City was doing what it could using the tools at its disposal as a landlord and planning authority. But he added that it faced the “twin challenges” of the impact of Brexit on its financial services sector and the reshaping of office life away from city centres after the pandemic.

The UK government so far appeared “surprisingly disinterested” in striking a meaningful financial services deal with Brussels, while “quite how many people return to the city is out of its hands”, Travers said.

“It's a substantial threat. The City relies on hundreds of thousands of people who live elsewhere.”

However, he added: “The City is incredibly able to change and respond to threats to itself.”

Smaller businesses have particularly struggled in the pandemic given the lack of financial resources to survive the lockdown.

The City will launch a small business research and enterprise centre to support the creation and growth of start-ups and small businesses by providing access to data and advice. The Square Mile Future City report was produced with consultants at Oliver Wyman

Де всі?

Я так поняв після інсайда від Макса, всі почали квитки бронювати на вечір? )))

всі вже в черзі у ВП,
щогодини перекличка і звірка з номерками написаними на руці зі списком смотрящого за чергою

ось такий? https://72.ru/text/gorod/2020/06/15/69308182/

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The City of London is planning to convert offices left vacant after the pandemic into hundreds of homes as part of a recovery strategy to be launched by the UK capital’s financial district.

The City of London Corporation will on Tuesday publish proposals to boost its cultural and creative industries, as well as bringing in “high-potential tech-led businesses” not traditionally attracted to its medieval streets. 

Low-cost, long-term leases in empty buildings could be offered to creative sector tenants, with other plans to explore new ways to use vacant space left behind from companies relocating staff out of London post-pandemic and bring new life to the area.

As part of the five-year strategy, the Corporation, which governs the UK’s traditional financial centre, said that it would consider traffic-free weekends in summer, as well as all-night “cultural celebrations” to encourage activity outside office hours. 

It added that the City “must adapt to post-pandemic economic and social trends” and set a target of adding at least 1,500 residential units by 2030 through a mixture of developing new schemes and converting old buildings.

The Square Mile contains about 7,850 residences, housing a community far smaller than the 19th-century population of 125,000 sustained before mass transportation enabled workers to commute from further afield.

It will also encourage landlords to offer more flexible and adaptable offices suited to the post-pandemic workforce.

Catherine McGuinness, the Corporation’s policy chair, said businesses had assured the authority of their commitment to retaining a London hub.

“But how they operate will inevitably change to reflect post-pandemic trends, such as hybrid and flexible working,” McGuinness added. “The Square Mile must evolve in order to provide an ecosystem that remains attractive to workers, visitors, learners and residents.”

Other proposals focus on digital infrastructure, including plans to complete a shared 5G network across the Square Mile by the end of 2022. The Corporation will this week announce a pilot with Cornerstone, the joint venture between Vodafone and Telefónica, to show that shared infrastructure can support the requirements of the four mobile operators using taller masts and “small cell” technology to increase network capacity.

The Corporation will work with public, private and academic partners to collect data for projects to improve the infrastructure and operation of the Square Mile by sharing and analysing working patterns, travel behaviours and the use of streets and public spaces. 

It has started pedestrianising several City streets, but it also wants to add and improve public spaces to enhance opportunities for communities to flourish as well as encouraging more walking and cycling. It is consulting on part pedestrianising the junction around Bank Underground station, and will participate in London’s trial of e-scooters.

The City of London’s economy has been particularly hard hit during the pandemic, with people forced to work from home in the lockdown. Many employers have revealed plans for staff to work at least part of the time at home on a permanent basis.

The Corporation created a recovery task force last year to help the Square Mile emerge from the pandemic stronger, with a greater focus on attracting businesses outside traditional financial services in future growth industries.

UK government ministers have also been keen to enhance the City’s competitiveness after Brexit, which has caused many traditional financial occupiers to move staff to rival European financial centres.

Tony Travers, a director of LSE London, said the City was doing what it could using the tools at its disposal as a landlord and planning authority. But he added that it faced the “twin challenges” of the impact of Brexit on its financial services sector and the reshaping of office life away from city centres after the pandemic.

The UK government so far appeared “surprisingly disinterested” in striking a meaningful financial services deal with Brussels, while “quite how many people return to the city is out of its hands”, Travers said.

“It's a substantial threat. The City relies on hundreds of thousands of people who live elsewhere.”

However, he added: “The City is incredibly able to change and respond to threats to itself.”

Smaller businesses have particularly struggled in the pandemic given the lack of financial resources to survive the lockdown.

The City will launch a small business research and enterprise centre to support the creation and growth of start-ups and small businesses by providing access to data and advice. The Square Mile Future City report was produced with consultants at Oliver Wyman

Горе лондонским лендлордам. Цены вниз стремительным домкратом:
https://www.plumplot.co.uk/London-house-prices.html

The City of London’s economy has been particularly hard hit during the pandemic, with people forced to work from home in the lockdown. Many employers have revealed plans for staff to work at least part of the time at home on a permanent basis.

В данном случае это является ключевым фактором.
Сити пострадал больше всех и местный муниципалитет чтобы оправдать свою ЗП генерирует прожекты. Не факт, что владельцы недвижимости разделают эту точку зрения, не факт, что это имеет смысл.

Отток людей из офисов это наоборот фактор, который увеличивает цены на жилую недвигу. Для жизни нужно, скажем, 20 метров на человека, а для жизни и полноценной работы уже 30. То, что часть офисов нарежут на гостинки (что тоже достаточно затратно и не факт, что получится без затратной реконструкции - сколько стояков канализации нужно будет дополнительно протянуть), только частично компенсирует этот дисбаланс.
Тренд на удаленную работу переформатировал и еще изменит рынок жилья, но пока неизвестно насколько и как. Может это будет звездный час Ирпеня и упадок гостинок в центре. Может станут более востребованы двушки. Может увеличится доплата за ремонт. Все это сейчас в той или иной мере происходит. Может в конце концов все вакцинируются и вернутся в офисы.

https://www.plumplot.co.uk/London-house-prices.html

Даже клацать по ссылке не буду - новость о пипеце в коммерции. Куда ты свои house prices тулишь? Дальше носа посмотри - лишняя коммерция пойдет на рынок жилья. Удаленка создает давление на весь РН, независимо от сегмента. А на временное снижение ипотечных ставок особо не уповай, тем более, что и там тренд уже развернулся